Over the past few months, rumors that began as whispers about President Obama dating Hollywood star Jennifer Aniston have morphed into the notion that Barack and Michelle Obama may be headed for a divorce.

If you’re looking for hot gossip about Obamas’ marriage — or any marriage — the former First Lady’s IMO podcast is not for you.

Michelle Obama is getting real about some serious topics. The former first lady is launching a podcast with her brother Craig Robinson, and the siblings and guests will talk about the tricky subjects surrounding adult friendships and relationships.